In talking with many other Power Engineers it appears that Sopeec is using the Pan-Global Training Material for exam questions for 1st and 2nd Class exams. Please study the course material really well.
My last 1RA2 exam was EXCLUSIVELY questions directly from PanGlobal material. This definitely was unexpected for me as I was asked a lot of definitions and methods of deriving formulas. This is not typical of previous exams.
Steamer, does this appear to be the case moving forward??
So the questions from the Pan Global are they more theory based or is for the math too? I ask because as always the math questions aren't that in depth in the Pan Global. I have had the odd one on 1st class exams that are similiar but it stuff that isn't covered in the Reed's.
My Last 1RA2 exam was 5/7 new material. From what I see is it deeper than the material that is Pan Global, but based on it, not sure where the questions are coming from. I couldn't find the answers directly but the basis is covered in Pan Global. Yes it's was a mixture of both as they asked for definitions and explainations on an applied exam. Gotta love the curve balls.
well it is about time that Sopeec made it a little easier for power engineers to pass these exams..it is not fair that you study PanGlobal material and then are presented with an exam that does not accurately reflect the course outline...lol...
Designing an exam that has nothing to do with the study material or is just plain way harder - that was criminal. And now they are suffering the consequences of their own actions.
further to my earlier comment these examiners know well the hardships that power engineers have upgrading themselves when there is limited classroom instruction available in certain provinces like Manitoba for example...how can a power engineer study and understand more complex material without proper classroom instruction...my hats go off to the individuals who have overcome these obstacles and succeeded in higher classifications but it is unfair that the provincial government and Sopeec have not made necessary arrangements so that all power engineers can at least get a fair shot at the can ...as others have in other provinces ....talk about curve balls...hey buddy take another swing...sucker...lol...
Here's what's criminal, guys... being given wrong exams. Two or three of the A3 exams I had been given to write were revised, when I was supposed to receive the old-format exams! The examiner had made a complete fool out of me by successfully delaying my progress and eroding away my chances to complete the exams on time. The 2010 deadline to write the old papers came and went, and my A-papers went straight down the sewer, along with my self confidence and self esteem. An immeasurable amount of psychological damage was done to me by this SOB, to say the least...
Do I want to start over with Pan Global? Only if I could be sure there was more fairness and consistency with these exams, and also to have the confidence to know that the examining body doesn't have the unscrupulous and discriminating rap like it did here for many years among the local PE community.
After writing a 2013 exam and talking with others, it seems that they are no longer taking as much material out of Pan Global. In 2012 I noticed a lot of the Pan Global material was being used or referenced to. This last exam I had only had 1/2 a question referenced from Pan Global. I have scanned through both my Pan Global book and Reed's book but cannot seem to find where some of the topics were discussed. This is what I've noticed on the 1st Class exams at least.
Has anyone else noticed this same thing this year?
Power, what exams on the 1st are you talking about? I wrote 1A4 last year and a couple of the questions were from the Pan Global material but I have no clue where the rest came from. I have to rewrite 1A1 and I'm trying to figuire out what material to focus on because the Pan Global is very vague and the way guys are talking they aren't following the reed's.
Zorns. I was talking about 1A1 and 1A2. I wrote 1a1 in 2012 and noticed a large portion were taken out of the Pan Global reference material. Some were actually pretty close to the ones off the SOPEEC website. In 2013 I wrote 1A2 and have no idea where some of the questions were coming from or even discussed. I guess I'll just keep looking for Applied Mechanics text books and keep studying...
Power so when you say reference material do you mean the reed's text? I have it and the thermo book by Rayner Joel. I wrote and passed 1A2 a couple of months ago and 4 of the questions I had came from the reed's pretty much word for word. 1A1 is my last paper on the A portion and just like the 2nd I have found the pan global books to be good for theory based exams and the shits for the math based papers. The only thing good for 1A1 in the pan global I have found is definitions and drawings. Did you find anything else useful from this text?
I have written the the 2A1, 2A2, 2A3 and 2B1 in the last 8 months.
One the applied mechanics paper, very little was covered by the Pan Global. Just the essay question came from the texts. The code calculations were very different from anything I had seen up to that point. I have since found a couple of the non code questions I had on the exam in the Walker's Applied.
The thermo paper was mostly pan global. There were several metallurgy questions that came right out of the books. I think the calculations were half from pan global and had half from Reeds.
The boilers paper was mostly pan global as well. I think I only had 1 question that I did not recognize the material. I was able to find the question later. It was an older 1st class question.
The prime movers paper was all pan global.
I think it is good practice to look at the sample questions on the Sopeec website as well. I know I have seen a few of those questions on my exams.
My last 1RA2 exam was EXCLUSIVELY questions directly from PanGlobal material. This definitely was unexpected for me as I was asked a lot of definitions and methods of deriving formulas. This is not typical of previous exams.
Steamer, does this appear to be the case moving forward??
So the questions from the Pan Global are they more theory based or is for the math too? I ask because as always the math questions aren't that in depth in the Pan Global. I have had the odd one on 1st class exams that are similiar but it stuff that isn't covered in the Reed's.
My Last 1RA2 exam was 5/7 new material. From what I see is it deeper than the material that is Pan Global, but based on it, not sure where the questions are coming from. I couldn't find the answers directly but the basis is covered in Pan Global. Yes it's was a mixture of both as they asked for definitions and explainations on an applied exam. Gotta love the curve balls.
well it is about time that Sopeec made it a little easier for power engineers to pass these exams..it is not fair that you study PanGlobal material and then are presented with an exam that does not accurately reflect the course outline...lol...
Designing an exam that has nothing to do with the study material or is just plain way harder - that was criminal. And now they are suffering the consequences of their own actions.
further to my earlier comment these examiners know well the hardships that power engineers have upgrading themselves when there is limited classroom instruction available in certain provinces like Manitoba for example...how can a power engineer study and understand more complex material without proper classroom instruction...my hats go off to the individuals who have overcome these obstacles and succeeded in higher classifications but it is unfair that the provincial government and Sopeec have not made necessary arrangements so that all power engineers can at least get a fair shot at the can ...as others have in other provinces ....talk about curve balls...hey buddy take another swing...sucker...lol...
Here's what's criminal, guys... being given wrong exams. Two or three of the A3 exams I had been given to write were revised, when I was supposed to receive the old-format exams! The examiner had made a complete fool out of me by successfully delaying my progress and eroding away my chances to complete the exams on time. The 2010 deadline to write the old papers came and went, and my A-papers went straight down the sewer, along with my self confidence and self esteem. An immeasurable amount of psychological damage was done to me by this SOB, to say the least...
Do I want to start over with Pan Global? Only if I could be sure there was more fairness and consistency with these exams, and also to have the confidence to know that the examining body doesn't have the unscrupulous and discriminating rap like it did here for many years among the local PE community.
After writing a 2013 exam and talking with others, it seems that they are no longer taking as much material out of Pan Global. In 2012 I noticed a lot of the Pan Global material was being used or referenced to. This last exam I had only had 1/2 a question referenced from Pan Global. I have scanned through both my Pan Global book and Reed's book but cannot seem to find where some of the topics were discussed. This is what I've noticed on the 1st Class exams at least.
Has anyone else noticed this same thing this year?
Power, what exams on the 1st are you talking about? I wrote 1A4 last year and a couple of the questions were from the Pan Global material but I have no clue where the rest came from. I have to rewrite 1A1 and I'm trying to figuire out what material to focus on because the Pan Global is very vague and the way guys are talking they aren't following the reed's.
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Zorns. I was talking about 1A1 and 1A2. I wrote 1a1 in 2012 and noticed a large portion were taken out of the Pan Global reference material. Some were actually pretty close to the ones off the SOPEEC website. In 2013 I wrote 1A2 and have no idea where some of the questions were coming from or even discussed. I guess I'll just keep looking for Applied Mechanics text books and keep studying...
I wrote 2A1 and there was absolutely nothing from panglobal in terms of codes questions or mechanics. Just the management stuff...
Power so when you say reference material do you mean the reed's text? I have it and the thermo book by Rayner Joel. I wrote and passed 1A2 a couple of months ago and 4 of the questions I had came from the reed's pretty much word for word. 1A1 is my last paper on the A portion and just like the 2nd I have found the pan global books to be good for theory based exams and the shits for the math based papers. The only thing good for 1A1 in the pan global I have found is definitions and drawings. Did you find anything else useful from this text?
I have written the the 2A1, 2A2, 2A3 and 2B1 in the last 8 months.
One the applied mechanics paper, very little was covered by the Pan Global. Just the essay question came from the texts. The code calculations were very different from anything I had seen up to that point. I have since found a couple of the non code questions I had on the exam in the Walker's Applied.
The thermo paper was mostly pan global. There were several metallurgy questions that came right out of the books. I think the calculations were half from pan global and had half from Reeds.
The boilers paper was mostly pan global as well. I think I only had 1 question that I did not recognize the material. I was able to find the question later. It was an older 1st class question.
The prime movers paper was all pan global.
I think it is good practice to look at the sample questions on the Sopeec website as well. I know I have seen a few of those questions on my exams.